Comments on: JV requests, bonuses and being pissed http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/ Articles, Recommendations and Business Building Information Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:50:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Travis Millward http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-8905 Travis Millward Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:52:43 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/?p=546#comment-8905 Nice perspective Mike. My favorite part though was the term "List Pimp". Never heard that one before, but it's good lol. <abbr><em>Travis Millward´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.traviskmillward.com/blog/hide-html-comments-web-pages/">How to Hide HTML Comments in Your Web Pages</a></em></abbr><div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8905','Travis Millward'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8905','Travis Millward','Nice perspective Mike. My favorite part though was the term \"List Pimp\". Never heard that one before, but it\'s good lol.\n\n<abbr><em>Travis Millward´s last blog post..<a href=\"http:\/\/www.traviskmillward.com\/blog\/hide-html-comments-web-pages\/\">How to Hide HTML Comments in Your Web Pages<\/a><\/em><\/abbr>'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Nice perspective Mike. My favorite part though was the term “List Pimp”. Never heard that one before, but it’s good lol.

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]]> By: Andre Arnett http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-8707 Andre Arnett Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:01:52 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/?p=546#comment-8707 hey Mike, Great post. Boy, you hit the nail right on the head. I don't know how many times I have bought something with bonuses and then had to spend half the day downloading the bonuses. There has got to be a better way. I think as more people get wise to this they may choose your way of thinking. <abbr><em>Andre Arnett´s last blog post..<a href="http://newbreedmarketer.com/blog/new-breed-marketer/thanksgiving-giveaway-2008-is-live/">Thanksgiving Giveaway 2008 Is Live</a></em></abbr><div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8707','Andre Arnett'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8707','Andre Arnett','hey Mike,\r\n\r\nGreat post. Boy, you hit the nail right on the head. I don\'t know how many times I have bought something with bonuses and then had to spend half the day downloading the bonuses. There has got to be a better way. I think as more people get wise to this they may choose your way of thinking.\n\n<abbr><em>Andre Arnett´s last blog post..<a href=\"http:\/\/newbreedmarketer.com\/blog\/new-breed-marketer\/thanksgiving-giveaway-2008-is-live\/\">Thanksgiving Giveaway 2008 Is Live<\/a><\/em><\/abbr>'); return false;">Quote</a></div> hey Mike,

Great post. Boy, you hit the nail right on the head. I don’t know how many times I have bought something with bonuses and then had to spend half the day downloading the bonuses. There has got to be a better way. I think as more people get wise to this they may choose your way of thinking.

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]]> By: Mike Paetzold http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-8706 Mike Paetzold Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:03:55 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/?p=546#comment-8706 <a href="#comment-8703">@Paul Penafiel</a> - Nothing wrong with the firesale and this one had great value. Not everything but there were some great products offered. I liked it enough to promote it and wuld not if there was not value there for the buyer. My problem was with overwhelming someone with even more stuff instead of helping them to consume what they purchased. Not just for the firesale but for a lot of bonuses I see for launches.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8706','Mike Paetzold'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8706','Mike Paetzold','<a href=\"#comment-8703\">@Paul Penafiel<\/a> -\nNothing wrong with the firesale and this one had great value. Not everything but there were some great products offered. I liked it enough to promote it and wuld not if there was not value there for the buyer.\n\nMy problem was with overwhelming someone with even more stuff instead of helping them to consume what they purchased. Not just for the firesale but for a lot of bonuses I see for launches.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Paul Penafiel -
Nothing wrong with the firesale and this one had great value. Not everything but there were some great products offered. I liked it enough to promote it and wuld not if there was not value there for the buyer.

My problem was with overwhelming someone with even more stuff instead of helping them to consume what they purchased. Not just for the firesale but for a lot of bonuses I see for launches.

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]]> By: Mike Paetzold http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-8705 Mike Paetzold Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:01:13 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/?p=546#comment-8705 <a href="#comment-8704">@Don McNulty</a> - See the problem is not the firesale itself because like you I can see valuable pieces and would never grab them all but adding even more as a bonus that upset me. The playing on greed I guess might be a better way to place it. If you are going to do a bonus make it something that will help people get more from the initial purchase not overwhelm them<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8705','Mike Paetzold'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8705','Mike Paetzold','<a href=\"#comment-8704\">@Don McNulty<\/a> -\nSee the problem is not the firesale itself because like you I can see valuable pieces and would never grab them all but adding even more as a bonus that upset me. The playing on greed I guess might be a better way to place it.\n\nIf you are going to do a bonus make it something that will help people get more from the initial purchase not overwhelm them'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Don McNulty -
See the problem is not the firesale itself because like you I can see valuable pieces and would never grab them all but adding even more as a bonus that upset me. The playing on greed I guess might be a better way to place it.

If you are going to do a bonus make it something that will help people get more from the initial purchase not overwhelm them

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]]> By: Don McNulty http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-8704 Don McNulty Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:28:49 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/?p=546#comment-8704 Basically, I agree with what seems to be the consensus here: that there is so much information in a firesale that it is like having a firehose when a garden hose will do. However, I did sign up for this one. No, I don't intend to download all of the products; I really don't want to be at my computer that long! Even so, there are several items that I expect will be very helpful to me at this time, so I can "cherry-pick" and I'm still getting a great deal. Actually, this is the same tactic I use when hitting the gazillion giveaways that are around nowadays. I just have all the emails sent to a "bulk" list account, then unsubscribe from most of them. I cherry-pick both the products and the emails, using and keeping only what's apropos for me at the time, and changing the list address on the emails I want to keep getting. So perhaps it's time to "unpiss thyself" :) Yes, I think a lot of people are getting taken advantage of, but if you're on the net for very long, you learn pretty quickly that most of the stuff out there is exactly that: stuff, with little or no substance. So pick wisely and get and use only what's important to you at the stage you're at in your internet marketing business. When gleaning material from the net, you have to separate the wheat from the chaff, or you'll suffocate in your silo of "stuff". All a firehose will do at that point is drown you as well.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8704','Don McNulty'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8704','Don McNulty','Basically, I agree with what seems to be the consensus here: that there is so much information in a firesale that it is like having a firehose when a garden hose will do.\r\n\r\nHowever, I did sign up for this one. No, I don\'t intend to download all of the products; I really don\'t want to be at my computer that long! \r\n\r\nEven so, there are several items that I expect will be very helpful to me at this time, so I can \"cherry-pick\" and I\'m still getting a great deal.\r\n\r\nActually, this is the same tactic I use when hitting the gazillion giveaways that are around nowadays. I just have all the emails sent to a \"bulk\" list account, then unsubscribe from most of them. I cherry-pick both the products and the emails, using and keeping only what\'s apropos for me at the time, and changing the list address on the emails I want to keep getting.\r\n\r\nSo perhaps it\'s time to \"unpiss thyself\" :) Yes, I think a lot of people are getting taken advantage of, but if you\'re on the net for very long, you learn pretty quickly that most of the stuff out there is exactly that: stuff, with little or no substance.\r\n\r\nSo pick wisely and get and use only what\'s important to you at the stage you\'re at in your internet marketing business.\r\n\r\nWhen gleaning material from the net, you have to separate the wheat from the chaff, or you\'ll suffocate in your silo of \"stuff\".\r\n\r\nAll a firehose will do at that point is drown you as well.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Basically, I agree with what seems to be the consensus here: that there is so much information in a firesale that it is like having a firehose when a garden hose will do.

However, I did sign up for this one. No, I don’t intend to download all of the products; I really don’t want to be at my computer that long!

Even so, there are several items that I expect will be very helpful to me at this time, so I can “cherry-pick” and I’m still getting a great deal.

Actually, this is the same tactic I use when hitting the gazillion giveaways that are around nowadays. I just have all the emails sent to a “bulk” list account, then unsubscribe from most of them. I cherry-pick both the products and the emails, using and keeping only what’s apropos for me at the time, and changing the list address on the emails I want to keep getting.

So perhaps it’s time to “unpiss thyself” :) Yes, I think a lot of people are getting taken advantage of, but if you’re on the net for very long, you learn pretty quickly that most of the stuff out there is exactly that: stuff, with little or no substance.

So pick wisely and get and use only what’s important to you at the stage you’re at in your internet marketing business.

When gleaning material from the net, you have to separate the wheat from the chaff, or you’ll suffocate in your silo of “stuff”.

All a firehose will do at that point is drown you as well.

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]]> By: Paul Penafiel http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-8703 Paul Penafiel Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:47:47 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/?p=546#comment-8703 I can tell you righte now, this will not be the last firesale you will ever see. Funny how I didn't see Mike Filsaime's name there or maybe I just got blinded with all those stuff they were giving away. Great analogy, seeing a firesale is like taking a shower with a fire hose, lol. That is so funny. Imagine a newbie with no marketing, business or internet background and seeing that for the first time, Yikes! Glad others feels the same way. Paul Penafiel<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8703','Paul Penafiel'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8703','Paul Penafiel','I can tell you righte now, this will not be the last firesale you will ever see.\r\n\r\nFunny how I didn\'t see Mike Filsaime\'s name there or maybe I just got blinded with all those stuff they were giving away. \r\n\r\nGreat analogy, seeing a firesale is like taking a shower with a fire hose, lol. That is so funny.\r\n\r\nImagine a newbie with no marketing, business or internet background and seeing that for the first time, Yikes!\r\n\r\nGlad others feels the same way.\r\n\r\nPaul Penafiel'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I can tell you righte now, this will not be the last firesale you will ever see.

Funny how I didn’t see Mike Filsaime’s name there or maybe I just got blinded with all those stuff they were giving away.

Great analogy, seeing a firesale is like taking a shower with a fire hose, lol. That is so funny.

Imagine a newbie with no marketing, business or internet background and seeing that for the first time, Yikes!

Glad others feels the same way.

Paul Penafiel

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]]> By: Glenn Seymour http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-8702 Glenn Seymour Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:18:01 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/?p=546#comment-8702 Mike You know every niche has noise makers that give the niche a bad reputation. The car business is one of those niches and is certainly known for making a lot of unnecessary noise. The sad part of that is there are a lot of professional sales people in the car industry. They suffer because of the noise makers. Even the medical industry, the one I am in, has those market detractors. They feel they cannot compete if they are not overdoing their marketing. For us newbies to internet marketing, seeing a firesale is like taking a shower with a fire hose. Glad to know experts like you, Doug, and Jit share the same point of view. Kind Regards Glenn Seymour <abbr><em>Glenn Seymour´s last blog post..Internet Marketing - Some Realities</em></abbr><div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8702','Glenn Seymour'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8702','Glenn Seymour','Mike\r\nYou know every niche has noise makers that give the niche a bad reputation. \r\n\r\nThe car business is one of those niches and is certainly known for making a lot of unnecessary noise. The sad part of that is there are a lot of professional sales people in the car industry. They suffer because of the noise makers. \r\n\r\nEven the medical industry, the one I am in, has those market detractors. They feel they cannot compete if they are not overdoing their marketing. \r\n\r\nFor us newbies to internet marketing, seeing a firesale is like taking a shower with a fire hose. \r\n\r\nGlad to know experts like you, Doug, and Jit share the same point of view. \r\n\r\nKind Regards\r\n\r\nGlenn Seymour\n\n<abbr><em>Glenn Seymour´s last blog post..Internet Marketing - Some Realities<\/em><\/abbr>'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Mike
You know every niche has noise makers that give the niche a bad reputation.

The car business is one of those niches and is certainly known for making a lot of unnecessary noise. The sad part of that is there are a lot of professional sales people in the car industry. They suffer because of the noise makers.

Even the medical industry, the one I am in, has those market detractors. They feel they cannot compete if they are not overdoing their marketing.

For us newbies to internet marketing, seeing a firesale is like taking a shower with a fire hose.

Glad to know experts like you, Doug, and Jit share the same point of view.

Kind Regards

Glenn Seymour

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]]> By: Ron Barrett http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-8701 Ron Barrett Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:46:48 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/?p=546#comment-8701 Mike,

Good for you. Personally I tend to delete a promo email from anyone if I see that they are offering more than one bonus for purchasing a product.

If you have to start offering bonuses for something, there may be something wrong with the original product, NO?

Ok…you can get down off of the soapbox now.

Ron

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]]> By: Fred Lotgering - Excel in MLM http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-8700 Fred Lotgering - Excel in MLM Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:24:54 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/?p=546#comment-8700 Hi Mike, Yes it seems to offer bonuses is a new trend. It's crazy. Just to avoid list hopping? I'm waiting for someone to start comparing the different bonus packages... Hmmm new niche...? Fred <abbr><em>Fred Lotgering - Excel in MLM´s last blog post..<a href="http://grabthetraffic.com/?p=52">How To Become A Traffic Pro?</a></em></abbr><div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8700','Fred Lotgering - Excel in MLM'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8700','Fred Lotgering - Excel in MLM','Hi Mike, \r\n\r\nYes it seems to offer bonuses is a new trend. It\'s crazy. Just to avoid list hopping?\r\n\r\nI\'m waiting for someone to start comparing the different bonus packages... Hmmm new niche...?\r\n\r\nFred\n\n<abbr><em>Fred Lotgering - Excel in MLM´s last blog post..<a href=\"http:\/\/grabthetraffic.com\/?p=52\">How To Become A Traffic Pro?<\/a><\/em><\/abbr>'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Hi Mike,

Yes it seems to offer bonuses is a new trend. It’s crazy. Just to avoid list hopping?

I’m waiting for someone to start comparing the different bonus packages… Hmmm new niche…?

Fred

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]]> By: Jit Uppal http://mikepaetzold.com/information/jv-requests-bonuses-and-being-pissed/comment-page-1/#comment-8699 Jit Uppal Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:15:31 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/?p=546#comment-8699 Hey Mike,

Excellent post. I was thinking the exact same thing this morning about the bonuses being offered.

Personally, I would MUCH rather get some personal coaching as a bonus than a bunch of digital products that I know I will never get around to using… The coaching can completely transform someone’s online business, whereas many of the other bonuses will just result in digital clutter.

Cheers!

Jit

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