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		<title>By: Graham Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://mikepaetzold.com/information/are-you-a-marketer-or-a-consumer/comment-page-1/#comment-8429</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If you go outside the te community no script is rarely used."  Nothing could be further from the truth!  NoScript is one of Mozilla-based browsers' most-popular add-ons, and is commonly promoted in security articles as a "must-have" for web surfers.  I knew what NoScript was and used it before I ever heard of a "traffic exchange".  Robert Purcell is quite correct when he says that a good developer knows to make his site work properly with or without JavaScript enabled, and this becomes even more important as more users access the web via their mobiles.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8429','Graham Whitehead'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8429','Graham Whitehead','\&#34;If you go outside the te community no script is rarely used.\&#34;  Nothing could be further from the truth!  NoScript is one of Mozilla-based browsers\' most-popular add-ons, and is commonly promoted in security articles as a \&#34;must-have\&#34; for web surfers.  I knew what NoScript was and used it before I ever heard of a \&#34;traffic exchange\&#34;.  Robert Purcell is quite correct when he says that a good developer knows to make his site work properly with or without JavaScript enabled, and this becomes even more important as more users access the web via their mobiles.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you go outside the te community no script is rarely used.&#8221;  Nothing could be further from the truth!  NoScript is one of Mozilla-based browsers&#8217; most-popular add-ons, and is commonly promoted in security articles as a &#8220;must-have&#8221; for web surfers.  I knew what NoScript was and used it before I ever heard of a &#8220;traffic exchange&#8221;.  Robert Purcell is quite correct when he says that a good developer knows to make his site work properly with or without JavaScript enabled, and this becomes even more important as more users access the web via their mobiles.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8429','Graham Whitehead'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8429','Graham Whitehead','\&quot;If you go outside the te community no script is rarely used.\&quot;  Nothing could be further from the truth!  NoScript is one of Mozilla-based browsers\' most-popular add-ons, and is commonly promoted in security articles as a \&quot;must-have\&quot; for web surfers.  I knew what NoScript was and used it before I ever heard of a \&quot;traffic exchange\&quot;.  Robert Purcell is quite correct when he says that a good developer knows to make his site work properly with or without JavaScript enabled, and this becomes even more important as more users access the web via their mobiles.'); return false;">Quote</a></div></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Mumme</title>
		<link>http://mikepaetzold.com/information/are-you-a-marketer-or-a-consumer/comment-page-1/#comment-8428</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Mumme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike,

I think that those so called marketers who are complaining about Sunny's report need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Good grief people, you complain about not making enough, if any money on the internet, then when someone actually introduces a product that will help educate people, you complain even more!

I snapped up Sunny's report the minute I saw it because I realised that it can help everyone who reads it. Do what you feel is right for you my complaining friends, but the smart marketer is going to put this report out to the masses.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8428','Dave Mumme'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8428','Dave Mumme','Hey Mike,\r\n\r\nI think that those so called marketers who are complaining about Sunny\'s report need to wake up and smell the coffee!\r\n\r\nGood grief people, you complain about not making enough, if any money on the internet, then when someone actually introduces a product that will help educate people, you complain even more!\r\n\r\nI snapped up Sunny\'s report the minute I saw it because I realised that it can help everyone who reads it. Do what you feel is right for you my complaining friends, but the smart marketer is going to put this report out to the masses.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike,</p>
<p>I think that those so called marketers who are complaining about Sunny&#8217;s report need to wake up and smell the coffee!</p>
<p>Good grief people, you complain about not making enough, if any money on the internet, then when someone actually introduces a product that will help educate people, you complain even more!</p>
<p>I snapped up Sunny&#8217;s report the minute I saw it because I realised that it can help everyone who reads it. Do what you feel is right for you my complaining friends, but the smart marketer is going to put this report out to the masses.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8428','Dave Mumme'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8428','Dave Mumme','Hey Mike,\r\n\r\nI think that those so called marketers who are complaining about Sunny\'s report need to wake up and smell the coffee!\r\n\r\nGood grief people, you complain about not making enough, if any money on the internet, then when someone actually introduces a product that will help educate people, you complain even more!\r\n\r\nI snapped up Sunny\'s report the minute I saw it because I realised that it can help everyone who reads it. Do what you feel is right for you my complaining friends, but the smart marketer is going to put this report out to the masses.'); return false;">Quote</a></div></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Paetzold</title>
		<link>http://mikepaetzold.com/information/are-you-a-marketer-or-a-consumer/comment-page-1/#comment-8424</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Paetzold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="#comment-8422"&gt;@Robert Purcell&lt;/a&gt; - And that will be the next hurdle. The problem though that you are missing here is that people that are supposedly marketers are training people to use this add on. If you go outside the te community no script is rarely used.

We will have to account for the coming mobile internet and that is happening rapidly.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8424','Mike Paetzold'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8424','Mike Paetzold','&#60;a href=\&#34;#comment-8422\&#34;&#62;@Robert Purcell&#60;\/a&#62; - And that will be the next hurdle. The problem though that you are missing here is that people that are supposedly marketers are training people to use this add on. If you go outside the te community no script is rarely used.\n\nWe will have to account for the coming mobile internet and that is happening rapidly.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-8422">@Robert Purcell</a> - And that will be the next hurdle. The problem though that you are missing here is that people that are supposedly marketers are training people to use this add on. If you go outside the te community no script is rarely used.</p>
<p>We will have to account for the coming mobile internet and that is happening rapidly.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8424','Mike Paetzold'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8424','Mike Paetzold','&lt;a href=\&quot;#comment-8422\&quot;&gt;@Robert Purcell&lt;\/a&gt; - And that will be the next hurdle. The problem though that you are missing here is that people that are supposedly marketers are training people to use this add on. If you go outside the te community no script is rarely used.\n\nWe will have to account for the coming mobile internet and that is happening rapidly.'); return false;">Quote</a></div></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Purcell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Purcell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...some have taken the viewpoint that no one should use java script on their pages then it would be a non event."

Hey, if we would just get rid of this internet thing, none of this would matter anymore! :D

Serious web developers know that a site needs to work with *and* without javascript. Use javascript to do the fancy, tricky, nice, cool, whatever stuff but plan for the basic functionality to be there if javascript isn't.

This has always been the way to go, even before anyone ever heard of Firefox. The blind typically use a browser that doesn't do javascript. Many public access points (libraries, etc.) are likely to disable javascript in the name of security.

Most of the sites today aren't usable on mobile devices. That'll be the next issue. And people will complain about that because, just like everything in your article here, they don't truly understand it.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8422','Robert Purcell'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8422','Robert Purcell','\&#34;...some have taken the viewpoint that no one should use java script on their pages then it would be a non event.\&#34;\r\n\r\nHey, if we would just get rid of this internet thing, none of this would matter anymore! :D\r\n\r\nSerious web developers know that a site needs to work with *and* without javascript. Use javascript to do the fancy, tricky, nice, cool, whatever stuff but plan for the basic functionality to be there if javascript isn\'t.\r\n\r\nThis has always been the way to go, even before anyone ever heard of Firefox. The blind typically use a browser that doesn\'t do javascript. Many public access points (libraries, etc.) are likely to disable javascript in the name of security.\r\n\r\nMost of the sites today aren\'t usable on mobile devices. That\'ll be the next issue. And people will complain about that because, just like everything in your article here, they don\'t truly understand it.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;some have taken the viewpoint that no one should use java script on their pages then it would be a non event.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, if we would just get rid of this internet thing, none of this would matter anymore! <img src='http://mikepaetzold.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Serious web developers know that a site needs to work with <em>and</em> without javascript. Use javascript to do the fancy, tricky, nice, cool, whatever stuff but plan for the basic functionality to be there if javascript isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>This has always been the way to go, even before anyone ever heard of Firefox. The blind typically use a browser that doesn&#8217;t do javascript. Many public access points (libraries, etc.) are likely to disable javascript in the name of security.</p>
<p>Most of the sites today aren&#8217;t usable on mobile devices. That&#8217;ll be the next issue. And people will complain about that because, just like everything in your article here, they don&#8217;t truly understand it.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8422','Robert Purcell'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8422','Robert Purcell','\&quot;...some have taken the viewpoint that no one should use java script on their pages then it would be a non event.\&quot;\r\n\r\nHey, if we would just get rid of this internet thing, none of this would matter anymore! :D\r\n\r\nSerious web developers know that a site needs to work with *and* without javascript. Use javascript to do the fancy, tricky, nice, cool, whatever stuff but plan for the basic functionality to be there if javascript isn\'t.\r\n\r\nThis has always been the way to go, even before anyone ever heard of Firefox. The blind typically use a browser that doesn\'t do javascript. Many public access points (libraries, etc.) are likely to disable javascript in the name of security.\r\n\r\nMost of the sites today aren\'t usable on mobile devices. That\'ll be the next issue. And people will complain about that because, just like everything in your article here, they don\'t truly understand it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div></p>
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		<title>By: Allan James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grabbed Sunny's report two days ago, and what an eye opener it was!

I shudder to think how many sales I lost out on because the potential buyer had scripts inhibited.

Instead of taking potshots at Sunny, marketers should be saying "Thanks!" and rushing off, as I am, to modify my sales pages to overcome the problems.

Cheers,
AllanJames
(the StartBusinessMentor)&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8421','Allan James'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8421','Allan James','I grabbed Sunny\'s report two days ago, and what an eye opener it was!\r\n\r\nI shudder to think how many sales I lost out on because the potential buyer had scripts inhibited.\r\n\r\nInstead of taking potshots at Sunny, marketers should be saying \&#34;Thanks!\&#34; and rushing off, as I am, to modify my sales pages to overcome the problems.\r\n\r\nCheers,\r\nAllanJames\r\n(the StartBusinessMentor)'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grabbed Sunny&#8217;s report two days ago, and what an eye opener it was!</p>
<p>I shudder to think how many sales I lost out on because the potential buyer had scripts inhibited.</p>
<p>Instead of taking potshots at Sunny, marketers should be saying &#8220;Thanks!&#8221; and rushing off, as I am, to modify my sales pages to overcome the problems.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
AllanJames<br />
(the StartBusinessMentor)
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8421','Allan James'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8421','Allan James','I grabbed Sunny\'s report two days ago, and what an eye opener it was!\r\n\r\nI shudder to think how many sales I lost out on because the potential buyer had scripts inhibited.\r\n\r\nInstead of taking potshots at Sunny, marketers should be saying \&quot;Thanks!\&quot; and rushing off, as I am, to modify my sales pages to overcome the problems.\r\n\r\nCheers,\r\nAllanJames\r\n(the StartBusinessMentor)'); return false;">Quote</a></div></p>
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