Comments on: Downline Integrity??? Come on lets get real http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/ Articles, Recommendations and Business Building Information Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:50:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mike Paetzold http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/comment-page-1/#comment-8052 Mike Paetzold Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:03:04 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/#comment-8052 Eldridge, The thing is that the only thing you should be promoting in the traffic exchanges is you. Use them to build your list and sell the products after you have the relationship. If you do that it doesn't matter what the owner is promoting as it won't be you and if it is so much the better. Getting hung up on downlines hurts the average person that is trying to make money online. I did that for way too long and believe me the key is to build relationships. Selling the myth of downline integrity hurts people and stops them from bnuilding a sustainable business. Now I build downlines in many programs but always from my relationship with people not from promoting any program I don't own in the traffic exchanges. Happy Holidays to you.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8052','Mike Paetzold'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8052','Mike Paetzold','Eldridge,\r\n\r\nThe thing is that the only thing you should be promoting in the traffic exchanges is you. Use them to build your list and sell the products after you have the relationship. If you do that it doesn\'t matter what the owner is promoting as it won\'t be you and if it is so much the better.\r\n\r\nGetting hung up on downlines hurts the average person that is trying to make money online. I did that for way too long and believe me the key is to build relationships.\r\n\r\nSelling the myth of downline integrity hurts people and stops them from bnuilding a sustainable business. Now I build downlines in many programs but always from my relationship with people not from promoting any program I don\'t own in the traffic exchanges.\r\n\r\nHappy Holidays to you.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Eldridge,

The thing is that the only thing you should be promoting in the traffic exchanges is you. Use them to build your list and sell the products after you have the relationship. If you do that it doesn’t matter what the owner is promoting as it won’t be you and if it is so much the better.

Getting hung up on downlines hurts the average person that is trying to make money online. I did that for way too long and believe me the key is to build relationships.

Selling the myth of downline integrity hurts people and stops them from bnuilding a sustainable business. Now I build downlines in many programs but always from my relationship with people not from promoting any program I don’t own in the traffic exchanges.

Happy Holidays to you.

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]]> By: Elridge http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/comment-page-1/#comment-8051 Elridge Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:31:42 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/#comment-8051 Mike, I think you are barking up one side of the argument. I know I am probably outnumbered here, but nevertheless, I'll take the time to make a comment. A traffic exchange is just that, a place where people go to exchange ads. The problem with your line of reasoning is that if members who join your exchange find that you are running ads for the same products or services its akin to advertising in a newspaper owned by your competition. Get it? No one is attesting to the fact that as a TE owner, you can't do what you want, just take consideration of your members and the things they are patronizing you for. Quite frankly it bugs the hell out of me when I am advertising "Product X" by buying traffic from an owner who sees fit to email their whole TE membership about the product I just paid to advertise on that site. An industry that continues to have no consideration for this is one that will eventually have the well go dry. Fortunately, I think more TE owners have taken notes on this and are considering it when they run promos to their member lists. Just something to consider. The downline integrity argument can be taken to extremes but it just boils down to plain old common sense and proper customer service. By the way, Happy Holidays everyone. Elridge<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8051','Elridge'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8051','Elridge','Mike, I think you are barking up one side of the argument. I know I am probably outnumbered here, but nevertheless, I\'ll take the time to make a comment.\r\n\r\nA traffic exchange is just that, a place where people go to exchange ads. The problem with your line of reasoning is that if members who join your exchange find that you are running ads for the same products or services its akin to advertising in a newspaper owned by your competition. Get it?\r\n\r\nNo one is attesting to the fact that as a TE owner, you can\'t do what you want, just take consideration of your members and the things they are patronizing you for. Quite frankly it bugs the hell out of me when I am advertising \"Product X\" by buying traffic from an owner who sees fit to email their whole TE membership about the product I just paid to advertise on that site.\r\n\r\nAn industry that continues to have no consideration for this is one that will eventually have the well go dry. Fortunately, I think more TE owners have taken notes on this and are considering it when they run promos to their member lists.\r\n\r\nJust something to consider. The downline integrity argument can be taken to extremes but it just boils down to plain old common sense and proper customer service.\r\n\r\nBy the way, Happy Holidays everyone.\r\n\r\nElridge'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Mike, I think you are barking up one side of the argument. I know I am probably outnumbered here, but nevertheless, I’ll take the time to make a comment.

A traffic exchange is just that, a place where people go to exchange ads. The problem with your line of reasoning is that if members who join your exchange find that you are running ads for the same products or services its akin to advertising in a newspaper owned by your competition. Get it?

No one is attesting to the fact that as a TE owner, you can’t do what you want, just take consideration of your members and the things they are patronizing you for. Quite frankly it bugs the hell out of me when I am advertising “Product X” by buying traffic from an owner who sees fit to email their whole TE membership about the product I just paid to advertise on that site.

An industry that continues to have no consideration for this is one that will eventually have the well go dry. Fortunately, I think more TE owners have taken notes on this and are considering it when they run promos to their member lists.

Just something to consider. The downline integrity argument can be taken to extremes but it just boils down to plain old common sense and proper customer service.

By the way, Happy Holidays everyone.

Elridge

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]]> By: More Downline Integrity Articles http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/comment-page-1/#comment-8022 More Downline Integrity Articles Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:30:53 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/#comment-8022 [...] Paetzold has posted a couple at his blog, and I recommend reading… Downline Integrity??? Come on lets get real and Downline Integrity Brigade has people [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8022','More Downline Integrity Articles'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8022','More Downline Integrity Articles','[...] Paetzold has posted a couple at his blog, and I recommend reading… Downline Integrity??? Come on lets get real and Downline Integrity Brigade has people [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] Paetzold has posted a couple at his blog, and I recommend reading… Downline Integrity??? Come on lets get real and Downline Integrity Brigade has people [...]
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]]> By: Chad http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/comment-page-1/#comment-7993 Chad Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:43:30 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/#comment-7993 As a exchange owner, I see nothing wrong with promoting to my members through email, if its not done too often. I wouldn't want an email from a site owner every few days with his/her affilate link promoting the next new thing....but once or twice a month is OK. Why someone thinks that TE owners shouldn't advertise to their members is beyond me. We provide a service, most members are free members and they don't have to read the emails if they don't want to..<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('7993','Chad'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('7993','Chad','As a exchange owner, I see nothing wrong with promoting to my members through email, if its not done too often. \r\nI wouldn\'t want an email from a site owner every few days with his\/her affilate link promoting the next new thing....but once or twice a month is OK.\r\nWhy someone thinks that TE owners shouldn\'t advertise to their members is beyond me. We provide a service, most members are free members and they don\'t have to read the emails if they don\'t want to..'); return false;">Quote</a></div> As a exchange owner, I see nothing wrong with promoting to my members through email, if its not done too often.
I wouldn’t want an email from a site owner every few days with his/her affilate link promoting the next new thing….but once or twice a month is OK.
Why someone thinks that TE owners shouldn’t advertise to their members is beyond me. We provide a service, most members are free members and they don’t have to read the emails if they don’t want to..
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]]> By: Ryan Hogan http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/comment-page-1/#comment-7986 Ryan Hogan Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:47:06 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/#comment-7986 I totally agree, Mike. This whole "downline integrity" fad seems more like some sort of indentured servitude to me. Steve Ayling had a great splashpage up the other day which said something to the effect of "why waste your time walking around a building looking for a certain door when the first one is already open"? In other words, if you want to join a program either through my link or someone else's, go for it! You're free to make that choice! :)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('7986','Ryan Hogan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('7986','Ryan Hogan','I totally agree, Mike. This whole \"downline integrity\" fad seems more like some sort of indentured servitude to me.\r\nSteve Ayling had a great splashpage up the other day which said something to the effect of \"why waste your time walking around a building looking for a certain door when the first one is already open\"?\r\nIn other words, if you want to join a program either through my link or someone else\'s, go for it! You\'re free to make that choice! :)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I totally agree, Mike. This whole “downline integrity” fad seems more like some sort of indentured servitude to me.
Steve Ayling had a great splashpage up the other day which said something to the effect of “why waste your time walking around a building looking for a certain door when the first one is already open”?
In other words, if you want to join a program either through my link or someone else’s, go for it! You’re free to make that choice! :)
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]]> By: Paul Kinder. One Real Happy Clicker! » Downline Integrity - Myth, Mystery or Just Plain Madness? http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/comment-page-1/#comment-7983 Paul Kinder. One Real Happy Clicker! » Downline Integrity - Myth, Mystery or Just Plain Madness? Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:40:06 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/#comment-7983 [...] of oipinion recently though, articles that have been appearing everywhere. Mike Paetzold’s recent article on downline integrity has some interesting points and I’m amazed to see how many comments he has already [...]
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]]> By: John Marks http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/comment-page-1/#comment-7981 John Marks Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:06:19 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/#comment-7981 Good post Mike. Downline integrity is a great idea, just not practical in traffic exchanges.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('7981','John Marks'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('7981','John Marks','Good post Mike.\r\n\r\nDownline integrity is a great idea, just not practical in traffic exchanges.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Good post Mike.

Downline integrity is a great idea, just not practical in traffic exchanges.

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]]> By: Chuck Bartok http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/comment-page-1/#comment-7980 Chuck Bartok Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:58:04 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/#comment-7980 Mike, You remind me of someone.... I am not a TE owner, but I use them for they are intended for.. Generate Leads from my Advertisement. I think sometimes the atmosphere would be more productive i f those without the business mind-set move on. Soren never aks me for the "rights" to my list, even though he has been one the most instrumental people on the net to show me how to get one... along with many others. Now I am helping others do the same....their lists aren't mine. They creating their own businesses ads and so on... I have said it before and I will again. I am proud to beassociated with groups like you have assembled here in this dialoguec<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('7980','Chuck Bartok'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('7980','Chuck Bartok','Mike, You remind me of someone....\r\n\r\nI am not a TE owner, but I use them for they are intended for..\r\nGenerate Leads from my Advertisement.\r\n\r\nI think sometimes the atmosphere would be more productive i\r\nf those without the business mind-set move on.\r\n\r\nSoren never aks me for the \"rights\" to my list, even though he has been one the most instrumental people on the net to show me how to get one... along with many others.\r\n\r\nNow I am helping others do the same....their lists aren\'t mine.\r\nThey creating their own businesses ads and so on...\r\n\r\nI have said it before and I will again. I am proud to beassociated with groups like you have assembled here in this dialoguec'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Mike, You remind me of someone….

I am not a TE owner, but I use them for they are intended for..
Generate Leads from my Advertisement.

I think sometimes the atmosphere would be more productive i
f those without the business mind-set move on.

Soren never aks me for the “rights” to my list, even though he has been one the most instrumental people on the net to show me how to get one… along with many others.

Now I am helping others do the same….their lists aren’t mine.
They creating their own businesses ads and so on…

I have said it before and I will again. I am proud to beassociated with groups like you have assembled here in this dialoguec

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]]> By: Jon Olson’s Hit Exchange Blog - Rants about the Traffic Exchange Industry and online marketing » Dowline Integrity - The Big Debate Across The Net http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/comment-page-1/#comment-7979 Jon Olson’s Hit Exchange Blog - Rants about the Traffic Exchange Industry and online marketing » Dowline Integrity - The Big Debate Across The Net Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:53:30 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/#comment-7979 [...] that have been popping up all about, you guessed it, downline integrity. Mike Paetzold’s recent article has some interesting points and should be a very active blog post to say the [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('7979','Jon Olson’s Hit Exchange Blog - Rants about the Traffic Exchange Industry and online marketing » Dowline Integrity - The Big Debate Across The Net'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('7979','Jon Olson’s Hit Exchange Blog - Rants about the Traffic Exchange Industry and online marketing » Dowline Integrity - The Big Debate Across The Net','[...] that have been popping up all about, you guessed it, downline integrity. Mike Paetzold’s recent article has some interesting points and should be a very active blog post to say the [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] that have been popping up all about, you guessed it, downline integrity. Mike Paetzold’s recent article has some interesting points and should be a very active blog post to say the [...]
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]]> By: Soren Jordansen http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/comment-page-1/#comment-7978 Soren Jordansen Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:40:11 +0000 http://mikepaetzold.com/articles/downline-integrity-come-on-lets-get-real/#comment-7978 Great post Mike, couldn't agree more.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('7978','Soren Jordansen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('7978','Soren Jordansen','Great post Mike, couldn\'t agree more.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Great post Mike, couldn’t agree more.
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